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and admiral mike mullen found that failures were grossly inadequate security and the secretary of state, hillary clinton, grew impatient with republican lawmakers who feel that the lawmakers use the video excuse to hide the truth. but the benghazi attacks were terrorism. >> we have four dead americans. was it a protest or because there were guys going out for a walk. at what point does an eight? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again. reporter: one of the victims father's telling fox news that getting to the truth makes a big difference. >> credibility is the difference it makes. we have a rule that says if a person's testimony is proven to be false in any part, the rest of the testimony is to be disregarded on that subject. reporter: whether or not these hearings get us closer to the truth, we will have to wait and see. jenna: we will have to watch it together. jon: taking you to a news conference outside of the home of the sister of amanda berry, one of the kidnapped victims. let's listen to the head of the cleveland
and admiral mike mullen found that failures were grossly inadequate security and the secretary of state, hillary clinton, grew impatient with republican lawmakers who feel that the lawmakers use the video excuse to hide the truth. but the benghazi attacks were terrorism. >> we have four dead americans. was it a protest or because there were guys going out for a walk. at what point does an eight? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever...
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it was led by am bass tore pickering and admiral mullen. they came up with recommendations, all of which are being fully implemented by the state department, and we need to continue to take steps to ensure, as the president said, nothing like this ever happens again, and also that we continue to go after and pursue whoever perpetrated this horrific attack and make sure we bring them to justice. >> congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, thank you very much. >>> more from cleveland where neighbors and friends continue to ask whether police could have intervened earlier to free the three women snubs's jeff rossen to to a neighbor about a call he said he made to police. >> i called the cops. the -- they were -- 6 [ male announcer ] let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. it'thto fight chronic.terms, osteoar
it was led by am bass tore pickering and admiral mullen. they came up with recommendations, all of which are being fully implemented by the state department, and we need to continue to take steps to ensure, as the president said, nothing like this ever happens again, and also that we continue to go after and pursue whoever perpetrated this horrific attack and make sure we bring them to justice. >> congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, thank you very much. >>> more from...
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former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mullen, and former ambassador tom pickerring. in defense of the white-wash report that avoid good indictment to state department top brass, pickerring said, quote, our marching orders were to get to the bottom of what happened and that's what we did. he's also quoted as saying that the whole investigation wasitant amount to pulistser-prize-level fiction. so much for impartiality. as for mr. mullen, a retired general, he is just one of the failed ark techs of our wayward military policy in the middle-east. the navy complimented a fallen david petraeus. will someone please explain how we were left naked in the face of terror? former secretary of defense, leon panetta practically turned himself into a pretzel in making excuses for the standdown. the current chairman for the joint chief, general martin dempsey joined the fog of no war from benghazi from the start. senator john mccain described the general's testimony to a senate committee last february as the most bizarre he had ever heard. we ghot a clearer picture of our military i
former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mullen, and former ambassador tom pickerring. in defense of the white-wash report that avoid good indictment to state department top brass, pickerring said, quote, our marching orders were to get to the bottom of what happened and that's what we did. he's also quoted as saying that the whole investigation wasitant amount to pulistser-prize-level fiction. so much for impartiality. as for mr. mullen, a retired general, he is just one of the...
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that's why they appointed the pickering/mullen review. but there is no sort of hidden agenda here, and they should try to push this aside as fast as they can. >> well, they want mr. pickering now to come forward behind closed doors and give deposition. because darrell issa says he doesn't want to make it a show. really? they've already had nine hearings. the right wing wants this story to stay around as long as possible, to tarnish hillary clinton as a national candidate. no doubt about it. bob shrum, here's a clip of darrell issa. why don't you respond to it. here it is. >> what did secretary of state hillary clinton fail to disclose or fail to do that makes her a target for you? >> hillary clinton is not a target, president obama is not a target. >> isn't this an effort to take downhillry in 2016, bob? they're political opportunists. >> sure, this is all about fear of the hillary candidacy in 2016 and resentment that president obama won in 2012. the republicans have been down this road before. it's sort of out of their playbook. they tr
that's why they appointed the pickering/mullen review. but there is no sort of hidden agenda here, and they should try to push this aside as fast as they can. >> well, they want mr. pickering now to come forward behind closed doors and give deposition. because darrell issa says he doesn't want to make it a show. really? they've already had nine hearings. the right wing wants this story to stay around as long as possible, to tarnish hillary clinton as a national candidate. no doubt about...
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we've had folks who have challeng challenged hillary clinton's integrity, mike mullen and pickering. they've used it for fundraising. >> ben, how do you respond to the fact that we're now looking at two very serious things being launched at the president that maybe is not as serious as all of the smoke around it. as the president said today, is there any "there" there? >> that's right. the president drew a line in the sand to what he's going to get to the bottom of and what's been a very political administration benghazi. the administration conducted an independent review with ambassador pickering with chairman mullen that looked into this issue. chairman issa would not allow the testimony over the weekend. the e-mails that you're referring to, republicans have had an opportunity to review those in march. speaker boehner had an opportunity to show up for the hill briefing that the administration offered and declined to do so. he sent his staffers. the president is taking control when it comes to the irs issue. americans have lost so much trust in government over the past couple of de
we've had folks who have challeng challenged hillary clinton's integrity, mike mullen and pickering. they've used it for fundraising. >> ben, how do you respond to the fact that we're now looking at two very serious things being launched at the president that maybe is not as serious as all of the smoke around it. as the president said today, is there any "there" there? >> that's right. the president drew a line in the sand to what he's going to get to the bottom of and...
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pickerring and mullen and petraeus and all of guys?bad >> i didn't put petraeus in there, juan, you did. >> these are people of great reputation. >> why didn't they interview hillary clinton? >> hillary clinton didn't have anythingil to say about securit. you think hillary clinton -- >> someone had to give the stand down order. >> that's the cover-up here. >> i'm listening to you and i'm thinking, people got fired on the basis of this report. >> and it's a garbage report. >> but maybe not the right people. maybe additional people should permanently. dana? >> well, a couple of t things. we talked yesterday about the two different time lines. there is the political talking point one where the state department spokesperson says this is going to look bad for us. we needt to make some changes, and then apparently somebody does their bidding. so i had a great job as press secretary. but i wasn't that powerful. in communications, you don't do anything likeng whale sale changing -- whole sail changingt unless someone in your leadership, like s
pickerring and mullen and petraeus and all of guys?bad >> i didn't put petraeus in there, juan, you did. >> these are people of great reputation. >> why didn't they interview hillary clinton? >> hillary clinton didn't have anythingil to say about securit. you think hillary clinton -- >> someone had to give the stand down order. >> that's the cover-up here. >> i'm listening to you and i'm thinking, people got fired on the basis of this report. >>...
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this is the headline by mullen and by pickering appointed by hillary clinton. it was a systemic failure the american people need to know what the failure was and who exactly was responsible. now, do you believe, monica crowley. >> yes. >> bill: that hillary clinton and/or president obama is responsible for the systemic failure. >> yes. >> bill: do you. >> the buck always stops with the person in charge or at least should. >> bill: hands on, hands on, are they responsible. >> you had americans under fire. where was the secretary of state who directly responsible for these people and where was the commander and chief in war zone. >> bill: hillary clinton put out, i have the paper in my hand, a time line where she says she was very involved in every aspect of it that's what she says. >> well the arb just quickly. >> bill: i only have a minute. >> under internal investigation because they didn't interview hillary or any of these benghazi whistle blowers. >> bill: you monica crowley believe that hillary clinton and president obama are responsible for the quote, unqu
this is the headline by mullen and by pickering appointed by hillary clinton. it was a systemic failure the american people need to know what the failure was and who exactly was responsible. now, do you believe, monica crowley. >> yes. >> bill: that hillary clinton and/or president obama is responsible for the systemic failure. >> yes. >> bill: do you. >> the buck always stops with the person in charge or at least should. >> bill: hands on, hands on, are they...
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i'll be heading down there right after the show to join admiral mullen and governor o'malley and carly fiorina for a conversation about education. thanks very much to you, chris cillizza, kelly o'donnell, count those votes, we'll talk to you later. >> we'll let you know how it turns out. >>> turning to boston. people who were injured in the boston marathon bombing are learning about how the millions of dollars raised in the aftermath are going to be distributed in a town hall meeting this morning, one fund boston administrator ken feinberg who we interviewed about this last week said the highest payments will go to people with the most severe injuries and obviously to those who lost lives, the families of those who lost lives. nearly $30 million in pledges and donations have come in so far. feinberg wants to lower expectations, though. >> it will be a very generous program, but let me tell you, they're in no way, there's no not enough money here to pay everybody. [ male announcer ] what?! investors could lose tens of thousands of dollars in hidden fees on their 401(k)s?! go to e-trade
i'll be heading down there right after the show to join admiral mullen and governor o'malley and carly fiorina for a conversation about education. thanks very much to you, chris cillizza, kelly o'donnell, count those votes, we'll talk to you later. >> we'll let you know how it turns out. >>> turning to boston. people who were injured in the boston marathon bombing are learning about how the millions of dollars raised in the aftermath are going to be distributed in a town hall...
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and that they're besmirching pickering and mullen. basically saying we are dis honoring the people who died there when he called this basically a political circus. so obviously he was not giving an inch on benghazi. and it's very clear that he sees this as a political attack rather than anything that needs to be looked at internally at the white house or the cia or the state department. absolutely saying no cover-up whatsoever. >> and chief white house correspondent jessica yellin who was in the east room. president obama on one hand saying that the benghazi talking points issue is a sideshow, there's no there there. but having a very different tone when it comes to the scandal about the irs targeting conservative and tea party groups. >> that's right, jake. first on the benghazi. i have to tell you i'm not surprised by the tone he took. inside this building as you well know they find this digging around about the talking points and the e-mails sort of ridiculous and just sort of politics as usual because they argue as you heard him s
and that they're besmirching pickering and mullen. basically saying we are dis honoring the people who died there when he called this basically a political circus. so obviously he was not giving an inch on benghazi. and it's very clear that he sees this as a political attack rather than anything that needs to be looked at internally at the white house or the cia or the state department. absolutely saying no cover-up whatsoever. >> and chief white house correspondent jessica yellin who was...
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pickering and mullen, they should be awill shamed of the document. >> you are saying pickering and petraeus, all the bad guys? >> eric: i didn't put petraeus in there, you did. >> these people are great reputation. hillary clinton didn't have anything to say about security i was just listening -- i'm listening to you and people got fired on the basis of this report. >> kimberly: maybe additional people should be terminated permanently. >> dana: couple things two different time lines. there is the political talking point one where the state department spokesperson says this is going to look bad for us. we need to make changes and somebody does their bidding. let me just tell you. i had a job as press secretary but i wasn't that powerful. in communications you don't do anything like wholesale changing of a document like that without somebody in your leadership as they refer to in the email, somebody in the leadership was telling her to make the changes. then on saturday morning, the white house meets and gets totals. there is all that time line and get to the youtube video and use that for se
pickering and mullen, they should be awill shamed of the document. >> you are saying pickering and petraeus, all the bad guys? >> eric: i didn't put petraeus in there, you did. >> these people are great reputation. hillary clinton didn't have anything to say about security i was just listening -- i'm listening to you and people got fired on the basis of this report. >> kimberly: maybe additional people should be terminated permanently. >> dana: couple things two...
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. >> today mike mullen will be asked to give sworn testimony before the house oversight committee. congressman darrell issa leads the committee. >> hillary clinton is not the target. president obama is not the target. the question is how did we fail three different ways, fail to heed the warnings of the impending attack, fail to respond properly during the attack, at least we could have done better, and i think everybody knows that. >> but democrats contend the gop is targeting clinton in order to discredit her in case she chooses to run for president in 2016. >> the reason she wasn't interviewed was she didn't have any direct line responsibility for the decisions that were made, but they want to bring her in because they think it's a good political show, and i think that's unfortunate. >> republican investigators are also seeking answers about why u.n. ambassador susan rice relied on watered down talking points to discuss benghazi in the days after the attack. on sunday senator john mccain accused the obama administration of taking part in a coverup. >>> the internal revenue servi
. >> today mike mullen will be asked to give sworn testimony before the house oversight committee. congressman darrell issa leads the committee. >> hillary clinton is not the target. president obama is not the target. the question is how did we fail three different ways, fail to heed the warnings of the impending attack, fail to respond properly during the attack, at least we could have done better, and i think everybody knows that. >> but democrats contend the gop is...
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i know ambassador pickering well, i know admiral mullen well and they're great public servants and they looked at this with a critical eye. their report was tough on the state department in many ways, but it didn't indicate that the state department leadership, secretary clinton or anyone else, was trying to impede the investigation or trying to stall it. there is no evidence to that that i can see. >> what should change when it comes to diplomatic security? >> diplomatic security in an age of terrorism, especially in a place in the middle east where we had a number of terrorist attacks, has to be job number one. it always has been for the last 15 or 20 years. obviously we're going to have to look at consulates in the arab world, places like benghazi, where we don't have adequate resources to fully staff a place. and answer the question, is it worth to have the presence on the ground versus the risk entailed. and there is no blanket answer here. the state department will have to look at each of these cases individually to determine in the future whether we ought to be in a place or not.
i know ambassador pickering well, i know admiral mullen well and they're great public servants and they looked at this with a critical eye. their report was tough on the state department in many ways, but it didn't indicate that the state department leadership, secretary clinton or anyone else, was trying to impede the investigation or trying to stall it. there is no evidence to that that i can see. >> what should change when it comes to diplomatic security? >> diplomatic security...
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mike mullen and tom pickering's integrity. it's a given that mine gets challenged by these same folks. >> joining me now for the daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and senior editor and kelly o'donnell. it was a defiant president obama today, let's see he used political circus, sideshow, and no "there" there. if there was any doubt about how the president feels about the benghazi probe coming from capitol hill, i think we now know. >> no question. chuck, contrast that to how he approached the irs story, the question was a two-parter, actually a three-parter. on the irs, these actions are outrageous, i will not tolerate it. on benghazi, clearly he, this is a digging in. this is, he does not think, he does see this as purely political by republicans. he does not, there was no apology for some of the discrepancy in the talking points, he dismissed as you used the words, he dismissed the focus on the talking points as a sideshow. emotional, i don't want to say angry. but clearly p
mike mullen and tom pickering's integrity. it's a given that mine gets challenged by these same folks. >> joining me now for the daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and senior editor and kelly o'donnell. it was a defiant president obama today, let's see he used political circus, sideshow, and no "there" there. if there was any doubt about how the president feels about the benghazi probe coming from capitol hill, i think we now...
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we've had folks who have challenged hillary clinton's integrity, susan rice's integrity, mike mullen and tom pickering's integrity. it's a given that mine gets challenged by these same folks. they've used it for fund raising. and, frankly, you know, if anybody out there wants to actually focus on how we make sure something like this does not happen again, i am happy to get their advice and information and council. but the fact of the matter is these four americans, as i said right when it happened, were people i sent into the field. and i've been very clear about taking responsibility for the fact we were not able to prevent their deaths. and we are doing everything we can to make sure we prevent it in part because there are still diplomats around the world who are in very dangerous, difficult situations. and we don't have time to be playing these kinds of political games here in washington. we should be focused on what are we doing to protect them? and that's not easy, by the way. it's going to require resources and tough judgments and tough calls. and there are a whole bunch of dip
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>> stephanie: mike mullen as we mentioned earlier. it is this thing. who is saying they have a cartoonish view? made it very clear. his views of the joint chiefs. there is nothing within range that could have made a difference. general martin dempsey and leon panetta said they didn't have enough intelligence about what was happening and did not know where the ambassador was and f-16s would have been the wrong aircraft. you can't send f-16s without knowing what is take place because you would have killed among other things, the ambassador. >> one thing gates pointed out was since what's his name's demise, they don't know where all of the surface-to-air missiles went. so flying blindly into that kind of situation would be incredibly dumb. >> stephanie: senator rand paul, did you see that this weekend said benghazi clearly precludes hillary clinton from ever holding office. >> uh, no. >> stephanie: yes, he was in iowa. oh gee. i wonder. first question, hillary clinton where in the hell were the marines? it was inexcusable, a dereliction of duty to preclud
>> stephanie: mike mullen as we mentioned earlier. it is this thing. who is saying they have a cartoonish view? made it very clear. his views of the joint chiefs. there is nothing within range that could have made a difference. general martin dempsey and leon panetta said they didn't have enough intelligence about what was happening and did not know where the ambassador was and f-16s would have been the wrong aircraft. you can't send f-16s without knowing what is take place because you...
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it was very clear from both our review in which admiral mullen participated, and from general dempsey's testimony, that they do not believe there was the kind of relief or the sort of relief that would have made a difference the night of the attack. within 24 hours of the attack or much less, 55 marines from rota in spain were this tripoli. all of our people were out of benghazi at roughly 6:30 in the morning of the 12th, following the night of the attacks. and we believe in fact that the conclusions that were made about the military relief and what could be done were exact and clear. you have to know that within an hour of the attack on the state department facility, a group of people were sent to benghazi from tripoli. people with experience in security, and in weapons. they were held at the airport for three hours, and then allowed to go to the annex facility, which just after their arrival was attacked by mortars the. >> you have made it very clear, sir, you do not believe there was a cover-up, but in your opinion in the aftermath, did the white house act in the best interests of th
it was very clear from both our review in which admiral mullen participated, and from general dempsey's testimony, that they do not believe there was the kind of relief or the sort of relief that would have made a difference the night of the attack. within 24 hours of the attack or much less, 55 marines from rota in spain were this tripoli. all of our people were out of benghazi at roughly 6:30 in the morning of the 12th, following the night of the attacks. and we believe in fact that the...
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look, mike mullens is a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. tom pickerring is a former ambassador. >> megyn: they headed up the review of what happened. >> exactly. tom pickerring was the beneficiary of a massive increase in security when he was our ambassador in el salvador. i know. i wrote the order. it was signed by the national security advisor, sent to the president and they beefed up the security dramatically in el salvador because he was the target of a threat. i would have thought that tom pickerring would have had the integrity to say, what was done for me was not done for ambassador stevens and it should have been and here is the list of people who should be held accountable. >> megyn: and you got the arb, big pickerring and mullen who ran the review, they never talked to hillary clinton. why didn't they talk to hillary clinton? they say it was enough we talked to the assistant secretary level. well, how do you know it's enough if you don't actually talk to her and find out what she knows? >> ultimately, you saw in the speeches that
look, mike mullens is a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. tom pickerring is a former ambassador. >> megyn: they headed up the review of what happened. >> exactly. tom pickerring was the beneficiary of a massive increase in security when he was our ambassador in el salvador. i know. i wrote the order. it was signed by the national security advisor, sent to the president and they beefed up the security dramatically in el salvador because he was the target of a threat. i...
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board did the former chairman of the joint chief of staff, admiral mike mullen did today they released a set back in february asking them to testify as witnesses. they declined. lou: they declined, that is quite a reversal for the beginning of this day was absolutely adamant in rejecting this hearing because he believed it was utterly and purely politically motivated bid thank you. outstanding reporting on this story, we appreciate it. today's oversight committee hearing on benghazi took place over the objection of democrats including elijah coming. and it is remarkable that lives in this reversal in a matter of some 12 hours really, and we are learning the is every indication that he will be testifying in this case, so we will find out along with the ambassador. as you have heard tonight's broadcast, one of the senior members of the house oversight coittee. he me this statement at today's hearing began. >> if anybody wants know what differences this would make, if anybody wants to ask what differences it would make, it always matter whether or not you can trust your government. and to
board did the former chairman of the joint chief of staff, admiral mike mullen did today they released a set back in february asking them to testify as witnesses. they declined. lou: they declined, that is quite a reversal for the beginning of this day was absolutely adamant in rejecting this hearing because he believed it was utterly and purely politically motivated bid thank you. outstanding reporting on this story, we appreciate it. today's oversight committee hearing on benghazi took place...
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impeccable reputations, beholden to your husband bill and ambassador named pickering, an admiral named mullen, have them investigate and make sure they don't ask you any questions. or talk to the guy in charge of the emergency response and pickering, he's perfect. he apparentlyelieves america is already full of islam foebs. while you're at it, hillary, why not throw the president of libya under the bus, too. the man who traveled to benghazi at great personal risk confirming almost immediately what you already knew, that it was a terror attack and you basically call him a liar or clueless to the rest of the world. and how about your take on our money. you take it and buy an advertisement to apologize to the arab world about a video that has nothing to do with benghazi, while he burn us in effigy. that will keep the lie going too. "the new york times" says that our benghazi obsession is all about hysterical allegations of crimes equal to watergate. really? my memory may not be all that great, but nobody died at watergate. and no one was left on the battlefield. our congress, though, they're goo
impeccable reputations, beholden to your husband bill and ambassador named pickering, an admiral named mullen, have them investigate and make sure they don't ask you any questions. or talk to the guy in charge of the emergency response and pickering, he's perfect. he apparentlyelieves america is already full of islam foebs. while you're at it, hillary, why not throw the president of libya under the bus, too. the man who traveled to benghazi at great personal risk confirming almost immediately...
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. -- admiral mullen. we need those individual who did the revisory board's report. all of those people need to come forward, even the democrats say we need additional hearings. >> what's the likelihood, though, of getting the former secretary of state to come and testify again before congress? >> i think it's strong in light of the clip you played. in light of what took place in the hearing wednesday. i think it's strong. i think it's strong that we get ambassador rice there. i think it's strong that we get victoria newlyn who was integ graly involved. it's worth giving the american the truth. >> let me get your take on what you think motivated the efforts to put out, for example, 12 different versions of the talking point. what was behind this? where does this -- where does this lead us, and what do we know about the real motive here? >> look, what we'll -- we'll find that out when we get them in front of the committee and ask questions. you have to look at the context. the context was we were 50, 60 days before an important election. that probably influences peopl
. -- admiral mullen. we need those individual who did the revisory board's report. all of those people need to come forward, even the democrats say we need additional hearings. >> what's the likelihood, though, of getting the former secretary of state to come and testify again before congress? >> i think it's strong in light of the clip you played. in light of what took place in the hearing wednesday. i think it's strong. i think it's strong that we get ambassador rice there. i...
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widely regarded figures in national security in washington, former chairman of the joint chiefs, admiral mullen, and ambassador, tom pickerring, nonpartisan, serving both parties. they conducted an extensive review of this -- >> welcome, you're watching something very unusual. we're going to be sticking with this. the white house is now backtracking trying to explain an abc news report that says shortly after the benghazi attacks, it had changed its talking points no fewer than 12 times, omitting reverends to a cia warning at the time of an al qaeda threat. what made this difference from fox reporting on this is that now everybody is reporting on this, and giving the press secretary of the united states a lot heat and questioning on this now. back to this. >> raises the objections to the fact the cia had warned bat
widely regarded figures in national security in washington, former chairman of the joint chiefs, admiral mullen, and ambassador, tom pickerring, nonpartisan, serving both parties. they conducted an extensive review of this -- >> welcome, you're watching something very unusual. we're going to be sticking with this. the white house is now backtracking trying to explain an abc news report that says shortly after the benghazi attacks, it had changed its talking points no fewer than 12 times,...
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former chairman of the joint chiefs, admiral mullen and ambassador tom pickering. nonpartisan serving both parties for different administrations. they conducted an extensive review of this. they said they have access to all the information they needed, had access to all the people they needed to talk to. they produced an unsparing report with a serious of very critical observations and very serious recommendations every single one of which the state department has adopted. so that's the way the system should work, and it worked that way because the president and secretary of state insisted that it work that way. >> jay, we come back to what you said. you said that the only changes that were made by either the white house or the state department were stylistic in a single word. what we see here is that the state department raised objections about the references to ansar al sharia, raise
former chairman of the joint chiefs, admiral mullen and ambassador tom pickering. nonpartisan serving both parties for different administrations. they conducted an extensive review of this. they said they have access to all the information they needed, had access to all the people they needed to talk to. they produced an unsparing report with a serious of very critical observations and very serious recommendations every single one of which the state department has adopted. so that's the way the...
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well-respected, nonpartisan chairman of the review document -- >> ambassador pickering and add admiral mike mullen. >> he would not let them testify in public. >> you're talking about this last week. he had invited them months before. >> he had invited them to private meetings but obviously -- and then they never held those meetings. if he wanted to hear the truth, if they wanted to hear the actual facts, the fact is that the state department took all of the recommendations of that review board, and i'm sorry, you don't have a hearing where you mention hillary clinton's name over 30 times and then get to say, oh, well -- >> half the time the mentions came from democrats who were singling out -- >> let's step back. >> there's two inconsistencies. first is what the president said. the house committees actually pointed out that there was a massaging of those talking poinlts s and the second is tha chairman issa has invited chairman pickering for deposition. >> let me get ryan's take. does the public care about this issue? >> we were talking about this before. it does seem like one of those issues tha
well-respected, nonpartisan chairman of the review document -- >> ambassador pickering and add admiral mike mullen. >> he would not let them testify in public. >> you're talking about this last week. he had invited them months before. >> he had invited them to private meetings but obviously -- and then they never held those meetings. if he wanted to hear the truth, if they wanted to hear the actual facts, the fact is that the state department took all of the...
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you know, pickering and certainly mullen, both of them are honorable people. they have done an extensive report. we welcomed, of course, the whistleblowers. they came forth, they -- you know, to say what they said, and then we had chairman issa the other day, on sunday, making various accusations about the authors of the report and now he said he's going to have them go and spend some time with some staffers in private and not allow them for the moment to come forth and make their presentation in public. they've been -- he said they have been untruthful and that they have done -- not done a complete job. those are the kinds of allegations that are very, very serious, and they need -- they need to have the same opportunity that our whistleblowers had to make their presentation. i think whenever you have a situation where you have accused somebody of those kinds of things, they need to have a forum to address them. >> i would not disagree with you. final question, briefly, if you don't mind. when you add the a.p. story, scandal, let's call it that, the irs scand
you know, pickering and certainly mullen, both of them are honorable people. they have done an extensive report. we welcomed, of course, the whistleblowers. they came forth, they -- you know, to say what they said, and then we had chairman issa the other day, on sunday, making various accusations about the authors of the report and now he said he's going to have them go and spend some time with some staffers in private and not allow them for the moment to come forth and make their presentation...
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but its leaders, admiral mike mullen and former u.n. ambassador pickerring refused to appear today and never interviewed clinton for their investigation. clinton testified before congress earlier this year. >> i directed our response from the state department stating close -- stayed in close contact with officials prosecute our government and the libyan government. >> military and intelligence personnel recognized the attack was terrorism immediately, yet president obama, secretary clinton and their aides continued referring to rioting over an anti-islam video for two more weeks. >> we've seen rage and violence directed at american embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. >> republicans accused the white house of stonewalling their investigation, noting clinton's angry refusal to explain in january why the administration continued to blame a spontaneous riot instead of what was known to have been a sophisticated terrorist assault. >> what difference at this point does it make! >> the mother of sean smith, o
but its leaders, admiral mike mullen and former u.n. ambassador pickerring refused to appear today and never interviewed clinton for their investigation. clinton testified before congress earlier this year. >> i directed our response from the state department stating close -- stayed in close contact with officials prosecute our government and the libyan government. >> military and intelligence personnel recognized the attack was terrorism immediately, yet president obama, secretary...
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of an independent review of what happened, former ambassador too many as pickering and admiral mike mullen. >> ultimately if that got it right, then we can put this to a rest. we believe it was insufficient. we believe it is likely they did not interview all the people. we have a witness who says i want to be interviewed and i wasn't. >> this morning ambassador pickering said he will testify. >> i am willing, as i have said continually, to go to that committee. i had regrets about going there at first when it looked like this was an entire political circus. i have now made it clear that i am prepared as all the other witnesses have to appear before that committee. >> i want to bring in alexander burns. and ruth. do you think there is a strong argument that the accountability review board should have questioned, for example, hillary clinton? >> well, i don't know why if you're doing an accountability review board you are wouldn't want to make sure that you're covering all your bases and i don't really understand the argument about we had a discussion with her versus we interviewed her. you
of an independent review of what happened, former ambassador too many as pickering and admiral mike mullen. >> ultimately if that got it right, then we can put this to a rest. we believe it was insufficient. we believe it is likely they did not interview all the people. we have a witness who says i want to be interviewed and i wasn't. >> this morning ambassador pickering said he will testify. >> i am willing, as i have said continually, to go to that committee. i had regrets...
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mike mullen and tom pickering's integrity. it is a given that mine gets challenged by these same folks. they used it for fund-raising. and frankly, you know, if anybody out there wants to actually focus on how we make sure something like this does not happen again, i am happy to get their advice and information and counsel. but the fact of the matter is these four americans, as i said right when it happened, were people i sent into the field. and i've been very clear about taking responsibility for the fact that we were not able to prevent their deaths. and we are doing everything we can to make sure we prevent it in part because there are still diplomats around the world who are in very dangerous, difficult situations. and we don't have time to be playing these kinds of political games here in washington. we should be focused on what are we doing to protect them? and that's not easy by the way. it is going to require resources and tough judgements and tough calls and there are a whole bunch of diplomats who know they are in h
mike mullen and tom pickering's integrity. it is a given that mine gets challenged by these same folks. they used it for fund-raising. and frankly, you know, if anybody out there wants to actually focus on how we make sure something like this does not happen again, i am happy to get their advice and information and counsel. but the fact of the matter is these four americans, as i said right when it happened, were people i sent into the field. and i've been very clear about taking responsibility...
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mike mullen, who was part of this report and indeed worked very closely with all of us and shared many of the responsibilities directly with me made it very clear that his view as a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff that there were nothing within range that could have made a difference. >> but of course the military would have been responsible for that. but the military opinion is nobody could have gone in there. >> that's correct. and general dempsey, his successor repeated that in hearings. >> there was a question whether they could do a flyover just to scramble some of these. >> the closest flyover possibility was identified in northern italy 1,600 miles away. that was given a two to three-hour possibility. but it also would require aircraft tankers to refuel those aircraft, and they were not available. >> the other complaint was that this report of yours -- accountability review board, only went so far. you did heavily criticize the state department for not responding to what had been obvious threats and obviously unsettled conditions particularly in benghazi but in liby
mike mullen, who was part of this report and indeed worked very closely with all of us and shared many of the responsibilities directly with me made it very clear that his view as a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff that there were nothing within range that could have made a difference. >> but of course the military would have been responsible for that. but the military opinion is nobody could have gone in there. >> that's correct. and general dempsey, his successor...
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depositions from ambassador thomas pickerring and former chairman of the joint chiefs admiral mike mullen. the two issued a report as you remember finding sissatic failures in the state department. saying decisions about benghazi were made well below the secretary's level. issa says he will make a formal request on monday for sworn testimony from the and the admiral, harris? >> harris: steve, thank you. we just heard senator feinstein of california this is all basically political. >> even though f. those democrats are right, it doesn't training the fact that from the start the obama administration gave out wrong information from the public about what happened. this is why we care. it comes down to trust. was that a mistake or was it intentional? and there are other reasons why americans care about the government vent laying the truth on benghazi. first in the pursuit of justice, for the four victims, the truth is imperative. did our government try to help them or not? clearly, this was not some he protest gone wrong. so, were there signs, warning signs that we needed to protect those peop
depositions from ambassador thomas pickerring and former chairman of the joint chiefs admiral mike mullen. the two issued a report as you remember finding sissatic failures in the state department. saying decisions about benghazi were made well below the secretary's level. issa says he will make a formal request on monday for sworn testimony from the and the admiral, harris? >> harris: steve, thank you. we just heard senator feinstein of california this is all basically political....
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you look at the investigation, the internal investigation done by ambassador pickering and admiral mullen, they say there just wasn't an understanding, a sufficient understanding, of how great the dangers were. if one accepts that is true, then there has to be some accountability. who didn't understand that? why didn't they understand that? has there been any repercussions for those individuals professionally? so far the answer seems to be no. there were four individuals who were reassigned and there seem to be questions about whether or not they were even disciplined, but no accountability on any high level. >> the most dangerous politics here would be those of avoiding this situation because of the partisan banter and not justifying those lives lost with the facts of what actually happened and so that we can learn going forward. >> and as gloria talks about the context, it's also important to remember the political context. not because we want to inject politics in this, this is a story about terrorism and career diplomats being killed, because this took place during a presidential elec
you look at the investigation, the internal investigation done by ambassador pickering and admiral mullen, they say there just wasn't an understanding, a sufficient understanding, of how great the dangers were. if one accepts that is true, then there has to be some accountability. who didn't understand that? why didn't they understand that? has there been any repercussions for those individuals professionally? so far the answer seems to be no. there were four individuals who were reassigned and...
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there is talk about having the two men who led that board, former joint chiefs chairman admiral mike mullen and former u.n. ambassador thomas pickering, to have them actually testify now again before congress. patti ann? >> doug luzader live in washington, thanks. >>> now for your "5 at 5:30," the top five stories making news this hour. it's the benghazi terror ad that you didn't see during the presidential campaign. >> 3:00 a.m. and your children are safe and asleep, but there's a phone in the white house and it's ringing. something's happening in the world. [ ringing ] [ shots ] >> the rnc create this ad, referencing hillary clinton's 3:00 a.m. ad from 2008 and now criticizing the obama administration for how it responded to the phone call from the benghazi attack. but we're being told that mitt romney rejected this ad to focus on the economy. it ends by saying americans deserve answers. >>> well, we've confirmed that tamerlan tsarnaev was secretly buried in an undisclosed location outside worcester, massachusetts. police confirming the bomber's body is no longer in the city and has been
there is talk about having the two men who led that board, former joint chiefs chairman admiral mike mullen and former u.n. ambassador thomas pickering, to have them actually testify now again before congress. patti ann? >> doug luzader live in washington, thanks. >>> now for your "5 at 5:30," the top five stories making news this hour. it's the benghazi terror ad that you didn't see during the presidential campaign. >> 3:00 a.m. and your children are safe and...
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but its leaders, admiral mike mullen and former u.n. ambassador pickerring refused to appear today and never interviewed clinton for their investigation. clinton testified before congress earlier this year. >> i directed our response from the state department stating close -- stayed in close contact with officials prosecute our government and the libyan government. >> military and intelligence personnel recognized the attack was terrorism immediately, yet president obama, secretary clinton and their aides continued referring to rioting over an anti-islam video for two more weeks. >> we've seen rage and violence directed at american embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. >> republicans accused the white house of stonewalling their investigation, noting clinton's angry refusal to explain in january why the administration continued to blame a spontaneous riot instead of what was known to have been a sophisticated terrorist assault. >> what difference at this point does it make! >> the mother of sean smith, o
but its leaders, admiral mike mullen and former u.n. ambassador pickerring refused to appear today and never interviewed clinton for their investigation. clinton testified before congress earlier this year. >> i directed our response from the state department stating close -- stayed in close contact with officials prosecute our government and the libyan government. >> military and intelligence personnel recognized the attack was terrorism immediately, yet president obama, secretary...
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committee chairman darrell issa wants to question thomas pickering and retired admiral mike mullen. senate majority whip dick durbin said issa is more interested in presidential politics. >> the bottom line is this. this was a tragedy. we lost four americans who were risking their lives to represent our country. we want to find those responsible and hold them responsible. and we want to make sure that the security in embassies in the future and consulates is going to be the very best for the men and women who work for us. unfortunately this has been caught up in the 2016 presidential campaign, this effort to go after hillary clinton. the reason she wasn't interviewed was she didn't have any direct-line responsibility for the decisions that were made. but they want to bring her in because they think it's a good political show. and i think that's unfortunate. >> pickering yesterday defended his decision not to interview secretary of state clinton. he said instead he's certain that lower-level officials guided the response to the attack. >>> a small town in northern california spent tw
committee chairman darrell issa wants to question thomas pickering and retired admiral mike mullen. senate majority whip dick durbin said issa is more interested in presidential politics. >> the bottom line is this. this was a tragedy. we lost four americans who were risking their lives to represent our country. we want to find those responsible and hold them responsible. and we want to make sure that the security in embassies in the future and consulates is going to be the very best for...
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. >> leon panetta, susan rice, president obama, admiral mullen. would all of these people go to bat just to get president obama re-elected? >> why would they sacrifice their reputation? >> the media by in large has really dropped the ball on this. >>> let's get right to our panel. joining us now is msnbc contributor james peterson of lehigh university. and by msnbc political analyst jonathan alter, columnist for "bloomberg view" and author of "the center holds: obama and his enemies" which hits bookstores next month. professor peterson, republicans have really raised expectations for their congressional hearing tomorrow on benghazi. no less an authority than representative trey gowdy of south carolina says "they're going to be explosive." given how much we already know, how are the hearings supposed to live up to that kind of hype? >> i'm not sure the hearings will be able to live up to the hype. i can tell you, though, i think the hype is part of the political strategy here on part of those folk on the right who are very much interested in making
. >> leon panetta, susan rice, president obama, admiral mullen. would all of these people go to bat just to get president obama re-elected? >> why would they sacrifice their reputation? >> the media by in large has really dropped the ball on this. >>> let's get right to our panel. joining us now is msnbc contributor james peterson of lehigh university. and by msnbc political analyst jonathan alter, columnist for "bloomberg view" and author of "the...
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i don't think mike mullen or ambassador pickering would put their career on the line to put out false information. this was an independent review board. you have cummings, the democratic congressman who said they have not had access to interview some of the people like the republicans have. that's why i think this is a political witch hunt. alisyn: we have heard some testimony from congress that leon panetta said there wasn't time. but we heard other people and we may hear today them say that there were f-16s 1,000 miles away at the aviano air base in sicily and they could have made it within 7 hours. >> that's not what the interest review board says. >> four americans died and there are a lot of decent people in government and elsewhere who want to know the answers. what i think we can say with certainty is the explanation for this attack immediately after was a lie and the people repeating these talking points to knew they were untrue and continue to repeat them anyway. nobody on the ground believes it was a spontaneous mob action. >> the cia first believed it was the video that cau
i don't think mike mullen or ambassador pickering would put their career on the line to put out false information. this was an independent review board. you have cummings, the democratic congressman who said they have not had access to interview some of the people like the republicans have. that's why i think this is a political witch hunt. alisyn: we have heard some testimony from congress that leon panetta said there wasn't time. but we heard other people and we may hear today them say that...
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we probably still need to hear from pickering and mullen and others. >> reporter: and others. no word when we might see further hearings but as we just heard on the channel if you're watching just in the last few minutes, house speaker john boehner, republican of ohio, now calling on president obama to release in full some of these unclassified e-mails. jon? jon: we'll see if he does. james rosen, in washington, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jenna: now to the group reportedly behind the attack in benghazi. the number two diplomat in libya at the time saying that he and many others knew it was terrorism from the moment it happened. greg hicks talked about receiving several phone calls that night about ambassador christopher stevens who was missing at the time being at a hospital and who ran the hospital caused greg hicks some serious concern. >> at this point, this response team looks like it may be a hostage rescue team. that they are going, we are going to need it send them to try to save the ambassador who was in a hospital that is, as far as we know, under enemy contro
we probably still need to hear from pickering and mullen and others. >> reporter: and others. no word when we might see further hearings but as we just heard on the channel if you're watching just in the last few minutes, house speaker john boehner, republican of ohio, now calling on president obama to release in full some of these unclassified e-mails. jon? jon: we'll see if he does. james rosen, in washington, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jenna: now to the group reportedly...
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. >> reporter: a review board led by former ambassador thomas pickering and former admiral mike mullen found that serious management and leadership failures at the state departmenç led to grossly inadequate security in benghazi. republicans argued today the review did not get at all the facts and that a cover-up continues. in turn, white house spokesman jay carney insisted the administration has cooperated fully, and he lashed out at the critics. >> attempts to politicize this which have guided republicans unfortunately since the hours after the attack and the republican nominee for president issued a highly misguided press release about it in an attempt to turn it into a political issue, have been unfortunate and haven't been focused on the problem itself. >> reporter: today's hearing may have resolved little, but there's more to come. republicans say the investigations will go on, and they say former secretary clinton may be subpoenaed to testify again. >> suarez: still to come on the "newshour": new details about the women held captive in ohio; treasury secretary jack lew; forensic
. >> reporter: a review board led by former ambassador thomas pickering and former admiral mike mullen found that serious management and leadership failures at the state departmenç led to grossly inadequate security in benghazi. republicans argued today the review did not get at all the facts and that a cover-up continues. in turn, white house spokesman jay carney insisted the administration has cooperated fully, and he lashed out at the critics. >> attempts to politicize this...
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source tell me they will have another hearing in the near future with thomas pickering and michael mullen. one republican calls that at least most republicans call that incomplete at best. we should expect other hearings. there are five separate committees in the house looking into this and there's no end in sight. >> the house and senate could look into it as well. >> five actively told to do so by the house speaker. the senate is run by democrats. they are not as actively looking into it. but there are very prominent senators like john mccain, lindsey graham who are not letting this go. >> thanks very much. i know the story won't go away. up next our jeanne moos has the story of a psychic that looked into a cleveland kidnappings and got it very, very wrong. nom, nom, nom. ♪ the one and only, cheerios would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours. we're not in london, are we? no. why? apparently my debit card is.
source tell me they will have another hearing in the near future with thomas pickering and michael mullen. one republican calls that at least most republicans call that incomplete at best. we should expect other hearings. there are five separate committees in the house looking into this and there's no end in sight. >> the house and senate could look into it as well. >> five actively told to do so by the house speaker. the senate is run by democrats. they are not as actively looking...